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John Kasaian

WOW! I've wondered how Post-modernism became the "law of the land" and now I know! It is disturbing to think that in ramming modern art down the public's throat that the CIA had it's hand in all the horrible art in post Vatican 2 Catholic Churches.

John R.P. Russell

Post-modernism is a reaction against the ideals of painters like Pollock and Rothko, who were pursuing the "absolute." Post-modernism is a rejection of the absolute.

Tim J.

"Post-modernism is a reaction against the ideals of painters like Pollock and Rothko, who were pursuing the "absolute." Post-modernism is a rejection of the absolute."

That's about right. Artists like Kandinsky (I've ebeen studying lately about him and the Blue Rider group) were trying to push past imagery to something more direct and pure. I think that attempt was on the whole misguided and unproductive, but I can understand it. Post-modernism rejects meaning altogether. Everything is "ironic".

It's not that I reject abstract art, but the spirit in which so much of modern art was pursued made it often opposed to things like order and beauty. It also tended toward dissolution, shattering art into its component principles and making the image all about *that*.

What makes a work of art great is that it is MORE than the sum of its elements, which is why the emphasis on the art elements (to the exclusion of subject, symbolism, meaning, etc...) has had such a deadening effect. IMHO.

John Kasaian

I get the Modernism/Post modernism arguement, but then is not the Modernism of Pollock and Rothko like the tiller on a ship? Modernism swings in one direction causing the ship to head in the opposite?

If the tillerman was the CIA the course being set would be a result of the tillerman, would it not?

Actually I think the whole story would make a hilarious movie, maybe call it: "Men Who Stare At Paintings of Goats"

It would be funny if not for the lousy religious art I see in too many churches.

The Cobbler

I am probably going to send the CIA art manipulation article around to my friends begging them to prove to me that it's a joke or something. I normally take comfort in the fact that the CIA is a government agency and therefore incompetent...

Artaban

Here's some disturbing "performance art" that has relevance to our bearded cause:

"6. Weird News of the Week: Man’s Beard Was Cut, Stuffed In His Mouth During Fight

He claims his beard was cut off and stuffed in his mouth and that he was ordered to eat it last May. And that’s only the beginning of what one Lawrenceburg man says he and his brother endured, all because of a fight over a lawn mower."

Courtesy of the "Thirty-Three Things" post on firstthings.com

Paul

Awesome! Great work Tim; can't wait for it to arrive. I've got the kids checking the mail twice a day. No arrival yet!

John Kasaian

My issue arrived yesterday! Splendid stuff! I've only scratched the surface of the content but Our Great Bearded Leader's quote from Chesterton, that we see the world from the back, was really awesum! There is just a lot of eyeopening things in this issue to read and absorb. Bravo!

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